Where is Mike these days? IMO the only one for HTM. The others left allot to be desired.
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ben said: Where is Mike these days? IMO the only one for HTM. The others left allot to be desired.Excuse me?? |
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For me Mick wasn't the best for HTM, but I can understand why people do think so. We've had this discussion before: htfo.proboards10.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1064347539&page=1
Well Ben (welcome btw), if you'd like to know more about Mick's current activities, follow this link: www.dogtalk.net/ |
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| Edited Feb 20, 2007 10:21:11 GMT -5 by steamingears |
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Thanks for the welcome Steamy. Mike was the Man. The other performances were weak. Sorry to burst your bubble Gulli.
Compared to the other percussionists at the time. Ron and Coco were well not very exciting. If you listen to the flow and time changes on the first HTM. Mike was right on. |
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ben said: Thanks for the welcome Steamy. Mike was the Man. The other performances were weak. Sorry to burst your bubble Gulli. Compared to the other percussionists at the time. Ron and Coco were well not very exciting. If you listen to the flow and time changes on the first HTM. Mike was right on. I noticed on the introduction-page you're into percussion, so maybe you listen to music in another way I do. For me Crafty Hands is a better album than the first one, especially because of Ron's very Bill Bruford-like drumming. The fact that Ron did the reunion-concerts (NEARfest 2000 for example) was the reason I flew over the ocean to watch this band. I'm not sure I would have if Mike was behind the kit. Don't get me wrong, He's an outstanding percussionist, but I prefer the more edgy playing of Ron. Well, I know a couple of forum-mates agree with you and some with me. That's the lovely thing about this forum. Nice website by the way: all those shining instruments. If you weren't a prog head I'd suspect some spam here  |
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No spam here Steamy.Just a long time fan and musician. I really didn't like any of the other releases. Service is the only song I like off Crafty hands. I have a prog sampler from 2000 with HTM doing Service live. I think Jonathan Mover was behind the kit. Not sure.
Have a Happy day. ;D |
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ben said: Just a long time fan and musician. I really didn't like any of the other releases. Service is the only song I like off Crafty hands. That's quite a new definition of "fan", if you ask me. |
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gulliver said: ben said: Just a long time fan and musician. I really didn't like any of the other releases. Service is the only song I like off Crafty hands. That's quite a new definition of "fan", if you ask me. Well, if you're a fan of "Happy The Man" - the album - I guess you can say you're a Happythemanfan , but I know what you mean. |
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ben said: I have a prog sampler from 2000 with HTM doing Service live. I think Jonathan Mover was behind the kit. Not sure. Interesting! What's the title of this sampler? Haven't got Mover with HTM yet, although I know he was in the picture for The Muse. |
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Jonathan Mover never performed with HTM. He did a few rehearsals, but it didn't work out.
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bp said: Jonathan Mover never performed with HTM. He did a few rehearsals, but it didn't work out. Thanks Bill for clearing this out. Do you know on which sampler HTM is performing a live version of Service? The only "sampler" I've got with a HTM-track is that great After The Storm-compilation. |
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I don't recall doing a live version of Service for any release. I would have been the one to mix it.
We did a five song demo of the newer tunes prior to The Muse being recorded. The demo came from one of the live shows. That was never released to the public however.
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bp said: We did a five song demo of the newer tunes prior to The Muse being recorded. The demo came from one of the live shows. That was never released to the public however.The "bigger" Inside Out-bands would have put those songs on a limited second CD, released with the original album. Think of Spock's Beard, Transatlantic. I guess this has never been a discussion-point or option for HTM. |
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Mike Beck is my fave HTM drummer so far along with Chris Mack but he's the drummer of Oblivion Sun
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I agree, I like Mike Beck as the favorite HTM drummer.
I am a bit biased considering the fact that I saw HTM practice & saw most of all their earlier concerts with Mike Beck. He was not just a great percussionist but an act..art & fit the music perfectly. Of course, you may get differing views from other HTM members. |
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I saw HTM at the Warner Theater (on a double bill with Hot Tuna, I think) in 78 (or 77?). They had a drummer who had a huge array of shiny metallic tubes and trinkets which were hanging from a bar. A brush across these produce a wash of highs which sounded great. Was that Beck, or who?
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firth said: I saw HTM at the Warner Theater (on a double bill with Hot Tuna, I think) in 78 (or 77?). They had a drummer who had a huge array of shiny metallic tubes and trinkets which were hanging from a bar. A brush across these produce a wash of highs which sounded great. Was that Beck, or who?I think it was Coco. |
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I never saw Coco. Beck's drum kit probably took up at least a quarter of the stage & included scaffolding that had pieces of pipe, glass & assorted other objects dangling from. He very rarely sat down to play. He hopped about striking the objects throughout most of the concert. Very visual. He even used a piece of vacuum hose for a sound on NY Dream Suite.
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barkinspider said: Beck's drum kit probably took up at least a quarter of the stage & included scaffolding that had pieces of pipe, glass & assorted other objects dangling from. He very rarely sat down to play. He hopped about striking the objects throughout most of the concert. Very visual. He even used a piece of vacuum hose for a sound on NY Dream Suite. I can almost see that in front of my eyes when listening to the old HTM albums. steamingears said: For me Crafty Hands is a better album than the first one, especially because of Ron's very Bill Bruford-like drumming. OK, but what about Kit's solo's on the first album, don't you miss some of it on Crafty Hands. There's not as many Moog solos and also much more laid back in the mix. |
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barkinspider said: He even used a piece of vacuum hose for a sound on NY Dream Suite.Sounds awesome
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admin said: steamingears said: For me Crafty Hands is a better album than the first one, especially because of Ron's very Bill Bruford-like drumming. OK, but what about Kit's solo's on the first album, don't you miss some of it on Crafty Hands. There's not as many Moog solos and also much more laid back in the mix. Well, it's more the total feeling of the album I'm speaking about. Of course I like the first one too, very much in fact and yeah, it sure has more solo's from Kit, but the second one is more tight and indeed more jazz-rock-prog. But let's not forget both are classics, there's just a slight preference (although Ben thinks otherwise). |
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steamingears said: But let's not forget both are classics, there's just a slight preference I do agree. In fact, as a whole album I like CH better, but the first one has some of my fave tunes, solos and drummer Mike Beck. |
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ben said: Service is the only song I like off Crafty hands.Bizarre. Well, that's the first I've ever heard that one! To each his own... As for Beck verses Riddle, I happen to love both their styles. Beck had a creative, often subtle style, and I love his use of varied percussion. Riddles drumming on Crafty Hands is tight and powerful. I'm not sure I've heard such amazing fills in 11/8 anywhere else! ;D
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barkinspider said: Beck's drum kit probably took up at least a quarter of the stage & included scaffolding that had pieces of pipe, glass & assorted other objects dangling from. He very rarely sat down to play. He hopped about striking the objects throughout most of the concert. Very visual. He even used a piece of vacuum hose for a sound on NY Dream Suite.Ha! I love this. Would have loved to have seen that.
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Problem is seeing HTM with Mike or just hearing, seeing him walk through a maze of racks filled with an eclectic collection of percussion equipment while playing was amazing. Saw a show at the old Fairfax theater (?) with Glass Moon as the opener. There was a 3 screen slide show behind HTM and if I'm not mistaken NY dream suite opened with mike swinging an orange tube/toy to start the song. Quite a showman. Didn’t he have a toy monkey with cymbals on his bass that he whacked to start?
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 I guess you're right about that: watching a band can be totally different than just listening to the record. It's great to read some eye-witness reports from the old days Mike Beck was in the band. Seems a fantastic show! Welcome btw, Cellardoor! I just saw this was your first post. |
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What was shown on the slide show cause I never heard that they had that kind of stuff during the shows. ? ? ? |
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Thanx Steaming gears, been a fan since I had to sneak into the Cellar Door with a fake Canadian Consult ID, Remember boys & girls in the door, up the left side all the way to the back. Right under the a/c inlet (pre tobacco ban time) and once we had some very good - um - steam, watching everyone's eyes light up was he-various. One of my ABSOLUTE favs was rock creek, out doors at night, One of the most surreal scenes I have ever had the pleasure of observing, except for wet seats, passing rain showers, seeing the arc from the mike stand to the strings, bass pedals with creepy blue lights shooting out to the bottom, now that's what I call one hell of a show. Fairfax theater if memory serves lots of brown tones, some streets, some roof tops, (might have been for Glass Moon) gigantic drum cage (rumor had it allot of the "cage" was actually Hech Co displays) Was I right about the monkey? I could sear it was the ending of a live show. Thanks for the mention I'll filling the member stuff.
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